September 2010
When we first announced the signing up of TheNagMan for proofing we suggested that it’s been a quiet year for new services with no-one really stepping forward to challenge the established names in the worlds of both racing and sports betting.
Since that first report at the start of the summer it’s been a poor summer for virtually every racing service with even our most favoured ‘hardy perennials’ taking a bit of a battering.
Anyone who has picked up a racing service that is turning a consistent profit just now is doing well and the performance, therefore, of every racing service out there must be viewed in that context.
There are many theories as to why the current racing picture is so unreliable from exchanges-related chicanery to incompetent going reports from the courses that are creating havoc with the form. It seems like there are a load of issues to be played out before we can say with confidence whether we are seeing a summer blip or something more damaging longer-term – a fundamental change in the underlying dynamics of racing. If the latter is the case, then, as yet, these fundamental changes are going undetected by the leading players on the punting scene.
TheNagMan
We began proofing TheNagMan following a year of solid, impressive name-checks from all the right sources. And this, our first full report, covers the period of 29th March 2010 – 31st August.
Not to be confused with the formerly equally successful system-based service www.nagman.com, this relatively new service is the product of a star chamber of racings brightest minds. This tight affiliation includes form and market analysts, racing insiders and a group of pro punters with a direct line to the workings of key trainers and owners. The group are understandably keen to keep their identities – and activities – out of the limelight and under wraps.
Taken over the longer term, the results have been very impressive – particularly since a new key contact joined the TheNagMan network in December.
Here is a reminder of their scores on the doors so far (below) as per the services own records up until March 2010 as featured in our initial report.
I’d be inclined to take these ‘historical stats’ at face value based on feedback we’ve seen on the likes of The Secret Betting Club forum and our own knowledge of the TheNagMan operation and the people behind it.
Obviously, even after five months of our own proofing, it is early days for our record of this service. The next six months, I should think, will establish the longer-term provenance of TheNagMan.
Our proofing pretty much started with the 33/1 winner of The Irish Grand National Blue Seacracker at 33/1. And that winner, understandably, looms large in this year’s returns. That one selection earned over 23pts profit for TheNagMan .
Up to March 2010 The NagMans stated long-term stats were –
Total Bets 562
Points Staked 1015.5
Returns 1320.4pts
Profits 304.9pts
ROI % 30%
However, since our personal proofing began on March 29th we have returned the following results:
| Service | Adv Pt | Return | Return | Profit | Profit | % Ret on Invest | No | Lev Stake 1pt | Average | Av Stake | ||
| Outlay | Adv Price | SP Price | Adv Price | SP Price | Adv Price | SP Price | Tips | Profit | % Ret | Pts/Tip | Profit | |
| TheNagMan | 453 | 472 | 394 | 18.9 | -59.5 | 4.16% | -13.1% | 262 | 12.3 | 4.7% | 1.73 | 21.1 |
However these results do need qualifying as, I reckon, they are slightly better in reality than the bare numbers above suggest.
Firstly, it is worth reiterating that any profit this summer has to be adjudged a success – such has been the general carnage in this sector of expertise.
Secondly, where TheNagMan have advised selections at Best Odds Guaranteed they have actually recorded better returns than those we have recorded.
However, with Best Odds Guaranteed not universally offered by bookmakers and also restricted as an offer for many higher stakes punters’ accounts we prefer to keep things simple by recording winners at the price advised by the service in their message. In this case though, that would legitimately allow TheNagMan to claim that July (a -2.25pt losing month for our records ) was in fact profitable.
August obviously ended on a downer for the service, coinciding as it did, with a summer break. They say: “August turned out to be our first ever losing month recording a loss of 15.9 points, which of course is disappointing, but nothing to worry about in the overall scheme of things. To put this into perspective before August we have had 15 consecutive winning months since the inception of TheNagMan in May 2009 and we have still made an overall profit of 314.4 points.”
Although we’d argue over the fine print a bit it is worth noting that The Nagman have recorded a profit in six of the last seven month’s since our proofing began.
Fees:
Normal fees for TheNagMan as as follows:
£149 for 1 month, £499 for 6 months & £849 for 12 months membership.
However we have bartered a bit extra for our viewers here with extra time added to the above durations for ProGambler viewers.
To get access to the additional free membership time you need to join via a secret page on their site.
Here is the link: TheNagMan Special Deal Page
Some of you may want to act now. Certainly taken as a whole the service record is great and, if you are prepared to give them leeway over an under whelming summer, you can take the view that they are coping with tricky betting conditions as well as anyone right now.
The TheNagMan service plans to cap membership in the near future with a view to both maintaining the available prices for selections and also protecting valued sources within their network. With that in mind, no official results are being displayed on their website.
Those behind the TheNagMan are extremely keen to maintain a low profile and they say: “We are trying our hardest to stay below the radar and protect our contacts both in the betting world and in the stables.”
One issue that has dogged TheNagMan , particularly on internet forums, has been a concern that the service has been plagiarising selections from rival services. The Mathematician, Packed Pockets, Hugh Taylor, Each Way Value System and especially Equine Investments have all put up prominent selections that have subsequently been followed by TheNagMan. This is something we feel we must mention, as it is obviously impossible to evaluate the long-term prospects of a ‘pirate’ or semi-‘pirate’ service that passes of others’ work as its own. However, a spokesman for TheNagMan refutes the claim of plagiarism saying that a large part of TheNagMan’s arsenal is info on gambles and fancied horses they say: “Obviously this means that at times we will want to back horses that other services have put up too based on our own contacts’ information.”
Obviously, here at Progambler, we will continue to monitor the TheNagMan over the coming months and we will update you as we go. Our first impressions though are that it is very much a service that we still want to have in our portfolio for the time being.
If you want to give them a go don’t forget to secure for yourself the extra value terms for ProGambler readers by using the deal page below
This lot are charging 149 a month.They cant be given no leeway,no thoughts of plagiarism and no bad summer.To have this service in your portfolio it needs to be the top performer at the costs they are asking for.
Roddo